All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost;
The old that is strong does not wither,
Deep roots are not reached by the frost.
From the ashes a fire shall be woken,
A light from the shadows shall spring;
Renewed shall be blade that was broken,
The crownless again shall be king. - J.R.R Tolkien

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Sometimes what I write in this blog will be well articulated, grammatically correct essays that serve as good social commentary on current issues. Most of the time, however, I'm busy and am not as diligent about proofreading or properly expressing thoughts as one should be when presenting one's writing to others. I apologize for anything you may read that seems worse than a rough draft, or appears to be a random disconnected thought. "Them's the breaks."

Saturday, January 23, 2010

The Dangers of Facebook Preaching

I know this guy on facebook from going to a couple events with a particular Christian ministry at FIU over a year ago now.  I honestly don't think I've seen him since we met in Fall of '08, which apparently happens to be about the time he became a Christian.  There is a chance that he follows the link from my facebook and reads this, and if so - Hey! How's it goin'?

Frequently his status posts on facebook are concerning.  He writes with the zeal of a new convert, which more or less I suppose he is.  There's nothing wrong with his enthusiasm my concern has always been that he seems to get so wrapped up in the letter of the law that the spirit of it, God's love for His people, seems to sometimes get pushed by the wayside.  There's a quote from Bono that often pops into my head when I read these kinds of posts that goes something like this "Zealots often have no love for the world. They're just trying to get through it to the next."  Once when quoting this to someone else I was told that we are supposed to be "in the world not of it" and similar lines that seemed to forget how John 3:16 starts "For God so loved the world..."

Sometimes when I can't take it anymore I'll comment on these statuses.  A few days ago I commented on a status that wasn't offensive at all I simply wanted people to have clarity.  I get annoyed when people talk about being "Jesus-like" or trying to do something "biblically" because it sounds like the Christian thing to say but the reality is that they don't know what either of those things mean.  My roommate and I like to quote the line from the Princess Bride "You keep using that word... I do not think it means what you think it means."

I think I also get frustrated with the concept of Evangelizing only to "save souls" and move on because there must be more to our faith than simply believing the right things and following a list of "don'ts" God must be bigger than that.  So, here's my most recent discussion on this person's facebook page.  He never actually responded to me, a couple of his friends did though.  Truth be told, knowing him like this is good for me, it helps me to begin to articulate exactly what it is that I believe.  The people other than myself will only be identified with initials:



DJ:

Are you doing your job as a Christian? Jesus said, "You are the salt of the earth. Let your light shine before men, that they may see your good deeds and praise your Father in heaven." (Matthew 5:13-16) Jesus also teaches us that we are to go & "bear fruit" (John 15:16) and to become "fishers of men" (Mark 1:17). The whole point of being a Christians is to make disciples of Jesus! GO EVANGELIZE! Souls are at stake!

Thu at 4:57pm · 
DJ:
Matthew 9:35-38

The Workers Are Few
Jesus went through all the towns and villages, teaching in their synagogues, preaching the good news of the kingdom and healing every disease and sickness. When he saw the crowds, he had compassion on them, because they were harassed and helpless, like sheep without a shepherd. Then he said to his disciples, "The harvest is plentiful but the workers are few. Ask the Lord of the harvest, therefore, to send out workers into his harvest field."

Where are the workers?
Thu at 6:06pm
Maggie
What are the workers supposed to do? Are the supposed to preach? And if they're supposed to preach, how? With words or with actions? St. Francis once said "Preach the gospels always, if necessary use words." So if we preach with our actions what do we do. Living by a moral code is important, but if it's all we do then we'll simply appear self-righteous.

I think maybe the answer is in Matthew 25:31-45
Thu at 7:16pm ·
AM:

Some of the workers are still in the churches because they are controlled by leadership instead of God and/or they just don't have the faith to do what God has led them to do...We all need to seek God for his perfect will for our lives...I truely believe that God is raising up a generation that will serve him and cast down imaginations and stop traditions of men in Jesus name...
Yesterday at 12:41am
AM

To Maggie: The workers are suppose to spread the good news of Christ and live by the greatest example which is Jesus Christ..if God leads them to preach then they should be obedient or by any other means to bring people closer to Christ...I believe that actions speak louder than words, so if you have the word and is also a publisher of it than you are in his will...In the old testament, when it was prophesize that Jesus was going to be crucified and rose on the third day..Jesus kept his word by his actions in the new testament...
Yesterday at 12:48am

Maggie
You're missing my point. I agree with everything you said, but you're speaking in vague terms. OBVIOUSLY we need to abide by the greatest example which is Jesus Christ. What I am trying to ask us all to think about is what that means. What EXACTLY was it that he did? What EXACTLY should we be doing and how EXACTLY should we be behaving? "Like Jesus" isn't good enough, because if we don't define what that means, then it's easier to pretend like we don't have to go and befriend prostitutes, love tax-collectors (or other high and mighty financial crooks on the level of Berny Madoff). If we don't define what being Jesus-like is, or what living biblically means, then we'll never actually do it, we'll just keep talking about it.
Yesterday at 2:06am ·
JS

wow...gr8 point, Maggie! :)
Yesterday at 8:38am
AM

Ok..Jesus was obedient to God, which involved saving the Lost and restoring those that are believers from sin.. When Jesus was ressurected he left his holy remnant for us. which is the Holy Ghost so that we can continue to live for him...When Jesus was on the earth, he faced persecution, oppposition, etc..but he endured because he knew who he was..Today, many people don't know who they are, but when we truly accept Jesus, we can show love no matter what comes our way and live according to his word...
Yesterday at 9:20am


Maggie
Hmmm... You're still speaking "Christianese" until you can explain it in plain simple English it will not only be hard to live out, but it will be hard for a non-believer to understand.

I think what really concerns me is that you're focusing on a very small portion of the faith. Once you "save a soul" what then? They believe the right stuff and they follow a list of don'ts. Lots of Christians believe the right things, lots of Christians preach the right things but in Matthew 7:21-27 Jesus says:
‘Not everyone who says to me, “Lord, Lord”, will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only one who does the will of my Father in heaven. On that day many will say to me, “Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many deeds of power in your name?” Then I will declare to them, “I never knew you; go away from me, you evildoers.”

"God's will" then in this verse is bigger than believing the right things as James tells us in James 2:19:
You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe—and shudder.

As far as following the commandments we know that there are only two that Jesus is truly concerned with. Not because the others aren't important but because he was summarizing them. The first 4 commandments are about loving and honoring God, the last 6 are about loving your neighbor. So when Jesus is asked what the greatest commandment is, he tells us this in Matthew 22:37-40:
“You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.” This is the greatest and first commandment. And a second is like it: “You shall love your neighbour as yourself.” On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.’

Through Jesus we know that loving God and loving our neighbor is more than having a feeling of affection for someone, you need to serve them, you need to spend time with them. In Matthew 25:36-45 which I referenced above Jesus says:
(ok, this is long one, too long for a comment box, so here:http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=131172627 )

The judgement depends on whether you lived out your faith and fed the hungry, clothed the naked, welcomed the stranger, cared for the sick, visited the imprisoned.

And yes, we are saved by grace through faith so that none of us can boast. This is true. We are saved so that when we go out to love people and share God's word through our actions we will not be sharing his word with a selfish motive to achieve our own salvation but out of genuine love for God and neighbor.
(I am passionate about this particular subject... I could go on)

I know some good connections where you can start going out and sharing the love of God if you need a place to start. :)
Yesterday at 10:09am ·
JS:

Preach, Maggie! =)
Yesterday at 11:01am
AM:

Ok..you were more in depth, I just mention the foundation, which should be the base of our faith...and when we seek first the Kingdom of God and all his righteousness..all these things will be ADDED unto you...God Bless You Maggie!!!:)
Yesterday at 12:45pm




This particular conversation turned out better than they usually do.  Once "DJ" posted something about abortion, which I am against, however because I suggested that it might be important to offer care for the scared mothers who found themselves in such a situation I was scolded be another person who felt that these women were simply suffering the consequences of their sin by having sex outside of marriage and it was not his responsibility.  I argued that as her brother in Christ it absolutely was because we are taught to forgive so that we may be forgiven. Sometimes I want to avoid dignifying just discussions with a response, but somethings can be hard to ignore.

1 comment:

duffyallen said...

Hi Maggie, I'm Allen, I met you at the wedding. We're friends on facebook, woo, and you made a post about your blog, which I read and enjoyed very much! I'm an art education undergrad right now, and some of the things we have been talking about is using fine arts to better develop the, self perception, i guess, in order to build confidence to better interact with, not only to the self, but with their environment, people, trees too if your into tress and stuff haha.
Anyway I think it rubs right up against some of the things you guys were talking about. I feel like it's what that person, A.M., was really trying to talk about when they talked about accepting jesus in order to love others. Developing self is about building a strong community. I thought I'd give my push for the importance of fine arts.
Your blog posts are stimulating to read since I don't hear much talk about christianity, and as a teacher, I know someday I will be working a lot of christains in a community environment. I will definitely be following you now. Not in a creepy stalker way, but in the creepy way cyberspace lets me by clicking a button. Hope to see more posts in the future!